Re: Input needed: DNS on the endpoint: dnssec-trigger and the hotspot warfare

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:29:22 -0500 (EST)
Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is a package in review that allows one to simply run DNSSEC
> on the endnode by dynamically reconfiguring the locally running
> DNS server. This process is mostly invisible to the user.
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754583
> 
> What happens is basically the following:

...snip...

> The real question I have is the port 443 resolver. It is surprising
> how many hotspots still transparently take (and break) port 53, even
> after signon, so the port 443 transport is quite regularly used (eg
> here in Canada, with most coffee places like Starbucks and Second
> Cup). Currently, there is an open resolver configured by upstream,
> but they are not able to handle a "Fedora size" userbase on such a
> resolver.
> 
> Is there infrastructure within the Fedora Project to run some of these
> resolvers? I am willing to take on maintenance for those if we do.

I'm not sure how keen we are on running open recursive DNS servers. ;( 

Would any of the existing free services work for this? 
Googles open dns servers or opendns for example?

> Is there infrastructure within the Fedora Community to run some of
> these resolvers in an "ntp pool" like way? I can donate a few mbps in
> Europe, but have no good resources in North America.

I think we could find resources, but I would be concerned that this
would open us up to DOS attacks, bind vulnerabilities and lots of
traffic. 

> Can we send Fedora users to DNS(SEC) servers operated by third
> parties? While security is not much of a concern (DNSSEC is in use for
> those domains willing to protect themselves) there is a potential
> issue of privacy on the DNS queries.

Yeah, not sure on that. I would say we would want to inform our users
of what we are doing before transparently redirecting their queries. I
don't know how feasible that might be however. 

kevin

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