Hi, I've ran into a real problem where package A requires B, and B requires A : The current httpd and httpd-suexec packages from FC Development. I've just installed FC Test from the latest ISOs, a minimal system, then did "yum install httpd" from there. The problem is that during the transaction, httpd-suexec (which got pulled in as a dependency) got installed first, outputting the message "apache group doesn't exist, using root"... BAD! Yes, the suexec binary is now sgid root on that system instead of sgid apache. Now... I'm posting here before bugzilla'ing this since I'd like to know what the general opinion is regarding packages requiring some of their own sub-packages like this. I really think it should be avoided since there are some side-effects like this one that can arise. Furthermore, I don't get why httpd-suexec nor php-mbstring (as another example) got split off... the main purpose I can see for such cases is for the original package to be overridden by another one providing the same functionality, like the X Mesa libraries. Matthias -- Clean custom Red Hat Linux rpm packages : http://freshrpms.net/ Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) - Linux kernel 2.6.8-1.521 Load : 1.00 0.99 0.76