Hi Rui, On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 09:21, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > What do you think of a security update that doesn't update because > there's a bug in an unrelated package? Firstly the fact that it interferes makes it related. Secondly it was pointed out by more than one user that hiding details about conflicts from the user (by skipping such packages) is probably worse than erroring out with a message. > How "potentially serious" a problem would that be? The user should have noticed there's a problem from the warnings (s)he received. If (s)he can't deal with those (s)he shouldn't be using multiple repos in the first place. > The job of a metapackager is making updating easier, not harder just as > hard as if it wasn't there. As pointed out the metapackager can not be expected to handle conflicts if no standard on which all the repositories (and users) agree is defined on how to do so. In case of your above example, how should yum know it needs to skip the package that holds the obsoletes, and not the package for which a security update is released? > There would be a resemblance if I was saying to install even if it > screamed of a problem... Well that is sort of what you suggest above. Install security update even though there is a conflict and skip the other package. I still don't see how that could solve a circular obsoletes by the way. > Yum doesn't prompt. Barfs. You could be right if it did, but > _it_doesn't_. Seth already pointed out developer time is limited. Would you be so kind to provide patches for more user friendly messages? > > you write up the process for what has to occur and get EVERYONE to agree > > on it and I'll write the code. > > In a very highlevel way, I already did, wouldn't you say so? No. You might have indicated a problem that you perceive, but you have neither described a standard on how to handle it, nor have you got everyone to agree on your solution. Leonard "you may feel a slight sting, that's pride fuckin' wit ya. Fuck pride!" den Ottolander. -- mount -t life -o ro /dev/dna /genetic/research