> > As much as we have disagreed on the previous topic we might have similar > thoughts here :). > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" >> <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:51:31 PM >> Subject: Dropping the ownership model >> >> What do people see as pros and cons continuing to use the current >> package ownership model? >> >> Would it be practical to dropping it altogether which in essence >> would >> make every contributor an "proven packager"? > > Well, everyone becoming a proven packager is going too far from the > beginning. > Though I have to say that this approach worked quite good in Mandriva in > the past. > I still remember misc telling me "please don't break too much" . For the > few years I maintained packages there > I haven't seen a single case of someone abusing his powers. > >> >> Would it be viable to move to something like language SIG based >> ownership of packages? > > SIGs are quite good idea and making more use of them can help providing > more structure when in need of getting help. > > >> >> As in lower the barrier of entry of contributor without the need and >> or >> introduction of an package or any sponsorship and have them assigned >> to >> relevant SIG based on language they either know or want to learn. ( >> not >> necessarly having to tie packaging with code contribution ). >> >> The governing body of the SIG would in essence be the once that would >> be >> responsible for the components. > > Well SIGs don't really have governing bodies and it is always good to have > a concrete name when you look for contacts for some package. > Probably packages can be assigned to person and SIG and they are open for > everyone from the SIG but still having a concrete name you can talk to. > Essentially the SIG will be the owner of the package and a person(s) will > be listed as something like primary contact(s). > >> >> So as an example a indvidual skilled in Java who would want to join >> the >> project would automatically be assigned to the java SIG which in turn >> would be assigned and managing all Java related components then the >> Java >> SIG based on what ever process/workflow they have decided would >> assign >> to that individual what ever task is needed at current times >> prioritized >> by the knowledge and resource they posses. > > As we(Java SIG) have quite similar approach aka someone from the SIG is > taking a task > he wants to work on and do it no matter who is the > maintainer/co-maintainers the current > situation is a bit annoying because people have to collect way too many > permissions in pkgdb > and this is either slowing down the process or depending on some > provenpackager to push the work. > Such a SIG approach to packaging will definetely make it easier and as > long as the packager has > access only to the SIG's packages this should not scare other SIGs because > new packager in certain > SIG wouldn't be able to touch other SIGs packages. This might better reflect reality anyway. There are packages I own where someone else has done most of the heavy lifting for awhile, and others that other people own where I'm doing the heavy lifting. It takes a village, etc, etc. -J > Alexander Kurtakov > >> >> So basically the barrier of entry is no higher than what the >> individual >> wants to learn or knows already as in.. >> >> Do you know or want to learn python. Join the python SIG etc... >> >> Do you want to learn distribution packaging join the Packaging SIG >> >> Or the individual would learn how to package components relevant to >> the >> SIG he just joined >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Far off and totally crazy, you are mad! >> >> What meds are you on can I have some? >> >> The SIG approach is something that actually might work... >> >> JBG >> -- >> devel mailing list >> devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
