----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> > To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:57:24 PM > Subject: Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken... > > On 11/22/2011 09:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 11/22/2011 04:51 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 10:50 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >>> I understand this thread as a comment on improving the detection > >>> of > >>> inactive maintainers and unmaintained packages. > >> It is indeed intended as such. > > I would recommend you stop this thread at this point and write up a > > concrete proposal and submit it to FESCo and/or help with scripts > > that > > automate the detection of potentially unmaintained packages. I > > would > > also recommend that you become a package maintainer so that you are > > aware of the other side and understand the problem areas better. > > First of all why do I need to come up with a concrete proposal to > FESCO > why dont they come up with something to try to improve the > distribution. Because FESCO is an engineering committee and in engineering things usually can be measured. What we speak about is a social problem for me. Aka noone is obligated to do anything. > > Does that governing body only exist to say yay or nay to others > proposals? Yes, because everywhere in FOSS one must be ready to work on what he wants. > > Secondly the only reason I don't maintain packages within the > distribution is because I'm fully aware that I dont have time in > doing so. But you think that if I don't have time to work on someone's bugreport I should be banned?? That's what I call a friendly atmosphere. > > So instead of me working under the illusion that I can resulting in > me > half ass maintaining stuff at best I rather choose not, to cause I > know > for a fact that nobody gains anything from it infact I would just be > signing up to become the part of the problem not the solution if I > did. > > And I'm already fully aware of the other side given that I receive > every > bug filed at systemd and I also can tell you that of each of ca 8 of > 10 > bugs filed there the reporter should be filing against relevant > component containing their unit files as opposed to systemd itself. ( > Apparently if anything fails at bootup it's systemd's fault ) > > I am giving what I can when I can, to contribute the distribution and > my > actions there speak well enough for themselves and will continue to > do so. So do all of us!!! Hence why I'm so angry at ideas for putting more requirements on packagers. > > My first and foremost priority is to get the migration process over > with..... > > JBG > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel