Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:57:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Fedora clean up process seems to be seriously broken...
> 
> On 11/22/2011 09:40 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 11/22/2011 04:51 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 11/21/2011 10:50 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>> I understand this thread as a comment on improving the detection
> >>> of
> >>> inactive maintainers and unmaintained packages.
> >> It is indeed intended as such.
> > I would recommend you stop this thread at this point and write up a
> > concrete proposal and submit it to FESCo and/or help with scripts
> > that
> > automate the detection of potentially unmaintained packages.  I
> > would
> > also recommend that you become a package maintainer so that you are
> > aware of the other side and understand the problem areas better.
> 
> First of all why do I need to come up with a concrete proposal to
> FESCO
> why dont they come up with something to try to improve the
> distribution.

Because FESCO is an engineering committee and in engineering things usually can be 
measured. What we speak about is a social problem for me. Aka noone is obligated to do anything. 

> 
> Does that governing body only exist to say yay or nay to others
> proposals?

Yes, because everywhere in FOSS one must be ready to work on what he wants.

> 
> Secondly the only reason I don't maintain packages within the
> distribution is because I'm fully aware that I dont have time in
> doing so.

But you think that if I don't have time to work on someone's bugreport I should be banned??
That's what I call a friendly atmosphere.

> 
> So instead of me working under the illusion that I can resulting in
> me
> half ass maintaining stuff at best I rather choose not, to cause I
> know
> for a fact that nobody gains anything from it infact I would just be
> signing up to become the part of the problem not the solution if I
> did.
> 
> And I'm already fully aware of the other side given that I receive
> every
> bug filed at systemd and I also can tell you that of each of ca 8 of
> 10
> bugs filed there the reporter should be filing against relevant
> component containing their unit files as opposed to systemd itself. (
> Apparently if anything fails at bootup it's systemd's fault )
> 
> I am giving what I can when I can, to contribute the distribution and
> my
> actions there speak well enough for themselves and will continue to
> do so.

So do all of us!!! Hence why I'm so angry at ideas for putting more requirements on packagers.

> 
> My first and foremost priority is to get the migration process over
> with.....
> 
> JBG
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