On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 13:42 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 07:17:05PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 11/09/2011 06:59 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > > > Seems surprising (to me) that it'd be installed, and the port open in > > > the firewall, but not enabled. > > > > From my perspective it's quite the oposit as in having it enabled on > > the dvd and instantly letting novice end users be vulnerable to ssh > > attacks because apparently power users no longer posses the knowledge on > > how to enable it via kickstart or otherwize.... > > > > Atleast the Gnome Desktop team ( which control their own spin ) took the > > smart route for their end user base.... > > > Did this hit the Release Notes? Correct or not, it's pretty big change in > behaviour if someone was expecting it to either be the same as past releases > or the same as installing from the DVD. Release noting it would be greatly > helpful for people looking to answer exactly the question asked here "Was > this intentional or is it a bug?" IIRC, it's not a change. It's been this way for a while. (The bug where s-c-f claims port 22 is open but in fact it isn't, after a live install, has also been around for a while.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel