Hi, I experience random shutdown delays of ca. 2 min (testing F16 RC1 thru RC4, hd installation with LXDE). To debug it I removed "quiet" and added "systemd.log_level=debug" in /etc/defaults/grub (kernel boot params). This are the only messages logged since shutdown command (regardless whether delay occurred or not): /var/log/messages: ... Nov 2 11:16:24 localhost dbus[852]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' (using servicehelper) Nov 2 11:16:24 localhost dbus-daemon[852]: dbus[852]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.UPower' (using servicehelper) Nov 2 11:16:24 localhost dbus[852]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UPower' Nov 2 11:16:24 localhost dbus-daemon[852]: dbus[852]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.UPower' Nov 2 11:16:30 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped. Nov 2 11:16:30 localhost rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.5" x-pid="873" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15. What else can I look at or debug and how ? I eliminated a possible case of "too quick to shutdown after bootup or after using firefox and terminal" scenario. I am wondering if there is something similar to 'systemd-analyze blame' that would apply to shutdown/reboot (instead of boot-up) time ? Also with 'systemd-analyze plot' capability ? JB -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel