On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 09:48:47AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > 2011/10/24 "J�n B. Gu�dsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>: > >> On 10/24/2011 05:42 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >>> FWIW, what the tomcat6 maintainers did is that they just ignored the > >>> guideline which says that you cannot migrate to systemd in an update and > >>> pushed this update: > > >> Unless FESCO granted them exception this update might be pulled back > >> atleast that was the case with mdadm [1] if I can recall correctly. > > > If it works this might not be a good idea, going back and forth just > > causes more pain for users. > > FWIW, I'm totally on board with the idea of not switching to systemd in > F15 --- and even if I wanted to do that, it's pure luck that the problem > doesn't apply to F14->F15 upgrades as well, where such an option is > certainly not available. The reason F14 escapes the problem is that > we went to a new mysql major release series in F15, something that > happens maybe once every three years or so. (The last-minute upgrade to > postgresql 9.1.x in F16 is likewise the only reason why I'm not bitching > about this with respect to postgresql too. And I suspect a whole lot of > other packagers are up against similar issues, or will be if they take > back-branch maintenance seriously.) > > What I want is a packaging guideline that doesn't simply blow off > the problem of upgrading packages in pre-systemd branches. It's not > an acceptable restriction, and I'm astonished that anybody ever thought > it would be. > I know that you commented on Ville's proposal. Have you tried it? Does it work for you? You could look at finishing it off as a draft and putting it onto the Packaging Committee's agenda. -Toshio
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