Hi, I performed a simple home test, a comparison of startup and shutdown times of: - Live-CD Fedora 16 beta - systemd parallel boot, GNOME 3 - Live-CD Knoppix 6.7.1 - microknoppix-fast-parallel-boot (based on SysV/LSB scripts), LXDE; note that Knoppix does decompression while executing The times measured were: t1 - time between machine turned ON and showing of live system DE menu t2 - time between machine "Shutdown" from DE menu and actual machine shutdown Note: no custom configuration or other user activities were performed. Notebook 1: ----------- Lenovo TP R61i, Intel Pentium Core 2 Duo 1.86 GHZ, Intel Mobile 965GM, 2 GB RAM, HD, CD-RW, sound, internal ethernet and wireless. F16 beta average t1=3m8s average t2=10s Knoppix average t1=1m37s average t2=20s Notebook 2: ----------- HP Nx6110, Intel Celeron M 1.3 GHZ, Intel Mobile 915GM, 768 MB RAM, HD, CD-RW, sound, internal ethernet. F16 beta average t1=3m42s average t2=26s Knoppix average t1=2m38s average t2=20s Results interpretation. ----------------------- Knoppix won by a wide margin, while: - Knoppix having microknoppix fast-parallel boot (based on SysV/LSB scripts) and DE with low resources usage and tailored for desktops - Fedora having systemd parallel boot and DE tailored for small and simple devices JB -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel