Hello to you. As you all know the current way of selecting DISPLAYMANAGERS (such as kdm gdm...) is rather nonmodular. Instead id suggest to use a system similar to the session entrys (.desktop files) and push an expansion of the freedesktop.org menu standard regardings DMs. The selection of the dm could happen via a command line utility that does symlinks. With above solution one could easly write a dynamic gui for that system that could also be used as switchdesktop-gui replacement if 2 vars are exchanged... the dir to look for .desktop files and the symlink to create ;). We need a modular system here. if its not going to happen i will have to override stock packages here with the upcoming fc3 release. regards, rudolf kastl http://newrpms.sunsite.dk