On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:31:49PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 03:27:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > So I propose that we drop this conflicts and fix grubby instead. > > No. It is not sane to have multiple bootloaders installed on one > machine. There's an interesting verbal trick there. "multiple bootloaders" are not installed. Multiple versions of the grub RPM package are installed. Only one bootloader would be installed on the host. > Requiring the ability to do so adds a significant amount of > extra complexity to the tools associated with it for no useful benefit. The useful benefit was outlined in the original email. > Just install the grub package in the guest, and chroot into the guest if > you need to run grub-install there. Running tools from out of the guest is insecure. There are several ways in which a guest could exploit the host if we did this. See "Security" here for some issues: http://libguestfs.org/guestfs.3.html#running_commands Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel