Am 04.09.2011 02:20, schrieb Tom Lane: > Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>>> How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the >>>> distribution exist until the OS can be called as "clean" like before >>>> F15? > >>> As many as it takes to get it done. > >> We need to get a provenpackager to just poke through all the packages and >> fix them instead of waiting for the maintainers. > > That doesn't seem to me to be a very good idea. Having recently worked > on the systemd migrations for mysql and postgresql, I know that there > are frequently package-specific considerations that are not obvious to > the casual onlooker. Having somebody who thinks he knows what he's > doing hack all the unfixed services is likely to make things worse not > better. > >> We should also remove this stupid "cannot migrate to a native systemd unit >> in an update" rule. If a native systemd unit file gets written, it should be >> pushed out to F16 and F15 immediately. > > That policy annoyed me at first but I've seen the wisdom of it. Doing > something like that will very likely break users' customizations of > their service setups, which is not something you want to have happen > after a routine "yum update" this wisdom is a little too late and should have been there before forcing the switch - no as we have systemd if we want it or not it must not take years to get all services converted hopefully the next time a big change like i fear wayland will be is introduced this wisdom comes BEFORE release give out a notice or somewaht else if a package brings a new systemd-service but stop tell us we have to wait until F17 or F18 to get the state which should have been for F15
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