On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 21:12, Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In any case, instead of arguing semantics, can you answer my actual > question? How many systems hang when floppy.ko is loaded? If it is a > large number, it should be easy to point to lots of data. Ok, just some very approximate stats for a group of approximately 50 computers i used to run (this was about 2 years ago and with various linux distributions but i doubt floppy support varies much). The computers with floppy drives enabled in the BIOS even though there was no actual drive attached took mostly between 2 and 20 seconds longer to boot. 2 of them (probably very broken controllers) actually took 2 minutes longer to boot. These extra boot times are far from being the end of the world but certainly not worth inflicting on everyone to satisfy the rare use from a tiny proportion of users. I may be way wide of the mark but if floppy drives were enabled either on demand or as a service in systemd could the module perhaps be loaded later on during boot and in parallel with the rest of the boot. That would make any potential hang completely irrelevant. -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't... -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel