Hey, it's been a quiet week so far... I'm intending to update glibc for F16 using provenpackager privileges tomorrow to fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730856 using the patch submitted upstream at http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13013 , if the glibc upstream developers and/or Fedora maintainers do not respond to the bug before then. I raised the issue on this list on 08-08 and filed the bug on 08-15. The patch was submitted upstream on 07-21. Andreas Schwab is very active on this list, so it seems unlikely that he would not be aware of the issue, yet there has been no response at all. It's downright absurd for there to be a known and understood crasher bug, affecting all users, in such a critical component for so long without any acknowledgement or response by upstream or the Fedora maintainers. This and the Flash audio corruption mess make it fairly clear that glibc maintenance is not what it should be for such a crucial package. Given that, the only sensible approach seems to be to go ahead and Just Fix It. Myself and Kevin Fenzi have been using the patch for a while, so it's not untested. glibc maintainers / developers, if you don't want me to do this, please start giving a crap about your bugs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel