On 20:17:14 Wednesday 24 August 2011 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 09:06 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > > If the service is enabled but the daemon not currently running, is it > > > so terrible for a connection test to cause the daemon to start? > > > Remember, in systemd logic 'service enabled with socket activation, > > > daemon not currently running' is effectively an 'on' state, not an > > > 'off' state. If you wanted the database to be 'off' you should have > > > the service disabled, and in that case, the ping test wouldn't cause > > > the daemon to start. > > > > It generally is a bad idea to automatically restart a database based on > > a random connection. There many reasons why you may have stopped the db > > (or it may have stopped itself) and requires inspection before > > attempting a new restart. Having to battle with socket activation while > > in a critical situation is not a good idea. > > Sure, and I agree with you that socket activation may not be a great > idea for a constantly-used database. I should've made it clearer that I > was engaging with the generic argument - 'socket activation makes it > tough to check the state of services by pinging them' - not the specific > example - 'socket activation makes it tough to check the state of MySQL > by pinging it'. As far as I was concerned, MySQL was just an arbitrary > example chosen by the OP. I want to add one more POV - not every database is constantly-used. Example usage is Amarok using mysql database and I really want mysql to not be started until I start Amarok. Not that this is very common usage scenario but still I know at least one guy using Amarok with mysql :). Alexander Kurtakov -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel