On Friday, August 19, 2011 11:12:25 AM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:07:45AM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:38:59 AM Ola Thoresen wrote: > > > On 19. aug. 2011 16:00, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > > > On 08/19/2011 12:35 PM, Steve Grubb wrote: > > > >> On Friday, August 19, 2011 03:41:33 AM Tim Waugh wrote: > > > >>> On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 16:52 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > >>>> It's not so much cups start up being slow as discovering network > > > >>>> printers. That can take up to a minute I think. > > > >>> > > > >>> This is true... however, discovered printers are cached so this is > > > >>> only an issue the first time CUPS starts after installation (or > > > >>> after connection to a new network). > > > >> > > > >> If CUPS is enabled by default, can this be done for runlevel 5 only? > > > >> It should not be enabled by default for servers. > > > > > > > > There are no such things as run levels in systemd but yeah desktop > > > > related services should just be enabled when booting into the > > > > graphical target. > > > > > > Just a thought - would it make sense to create a "server-target" > > > (and/or "desktop-target") that is independent of graphical-target? > > > > I would hope there are pre-canned targets for different crowds. I also > > hope there is a secure default configuration for each of them. I also > > hope there is a way to list all > > There was some talk about ”preset” - what should be enabled in various > scenarios (spins). So, the main Fedora download is not sufficient? We have to download a server spin to have the right security settings? If so we should also take way the ability to pick packages because someone might accidentally create a server at install time. We need a way to specify in the service init files which targets the service is allowed to run in by default. > > of these targets and what is enabled for each one, because that will be > > needed for any kind of security analysis. > > System settings: > % ls /lib/systemd/system/<name>.target.wants/ > Admin settings: > % ls /etc/systemd/system/<name>.target.wants/ What would be nice is to wrap that up in a program, format it into columns for easy comparison. Once you have that it might even be nice to use the same tool to make configuration changes.... -Steve -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel