Am 19.08.2011 16:50, schrieb Richard Hughes: > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't want to >> require it just to print. > > Then "security" is flying in the face of usability this is always so, nearly everything what somebody calls usability has implications in security - and that is why linux should not go only the "usability-way" for every piece instead make a secure default install - if you need avahi you can install/enable it, but do not force every body out there have it installed only because it makes it easier for every braindead guy set up a system without thinking if you need such a system Apple is your favorite because they enable everything without thinking any second if this could affect security resulting in having every crap installed and active especially as long fedora have really usability bugs like "systemctl start/stop service" gives no feedback and the dumb wrapper for "/sbin/service" says OK even if all fails and THIS are usability faux passes without negative security implications or in worstcase if you start a service with increases security with "service start" you are thinking it is running while it has failed
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