On Mon, 24 May 2004 14:46:44 -0500, Elliott Wilcoxon <elliott@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Would the following scenario be possible? FC(n+1) is released, small > Core, large Extras. Apt/yum repos go up with the new stuff. A lot of discussion and ideas seems to center around being able to do further upgrades cleanly, assuming a network connection. I have no problem with saying that yes...from now on fedora is going to demand that you have broad band connectivity to do clean upgrades or installs. But if thats going to be the case...lets just stop pretending that media sets are important moving forward and wasting all this trouble screwing around with installable media sets altogether. If thats not going to be the case... we need to think hard about how to do clean upgrades using media sets where network connectivity is assumed. I point to the vendors pages at fedora,redhat.com where vendors are selling pressed install media as evidence of the importance of making sure upgrades paths exist that do not invovle downloading potential 4 gigs of information to each client machine and then burning isos to disk locally on client machines. Doing the sort of customized iso burning you are talking about seems great for people who have the bandwidth to do it...but those people have the bandwidth to do a network based install already they dont need custom isos. And i think the bittorrent lesson for fc2 release has some lesson about how effective this sort of client side iso creation is going to be..on release week. Pushing a bundle of pre-cooked isos around via torrent is going to scale MUCH better than everyone trying to pull custom package collection from the mirrors...ugh the first release to see that option...im hiding that whole release week while people complaing about not being able to get all their custom packages from the mirrors due to mirror load. If everything moving forward demands highband network connectivity to be at all useful, then lets just state that and throw away isosets altogether....in a world like that all we need is rescuecd.iso and the restt can sit in a repo somewhere. -jef