On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:05 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > as I always point out when this comes up, in the hopes that it'll > > eventually irritate someone enough that they go fix the feature process, > > the option is open to simply put Java 7 in without it being a 'Fedora > > feature'. If you do it that way, you could do it right up to, hmm, the > > post-Beta final freeze without there being any firm policy grounds on > > which to object to the change. it's only if you declare it to be a > > Feature that FESCo is clearly empowered to tell you you can't do it. ;) > > > > (I note with interest Toshio's neat caveat to this, which appears later > > in the thread.) > > > Actually, I'd consider this to be very bad advice. There have been several > Features over the past few releases that FESCo has decided on late. Those > things were sometimes made into features only after prompting by people who > realized that the changes were unannounced features. > > Things that require coordination between maintainers are a feature and FESCo > has a right to veto them whether the authors of the feature have followed > the feature process or not. The policy encompasses anything defined as > a feature: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Definitions I agree! It is very bad advice, and it wasn't actually meant as advice (apologies for the very bad wording here, I had four hours of sleep last night and wrote that on the tenth hour of a train ride), but more as my traditional monthly snipe at the gap in the feature process. So, I went and did something a bit more productive: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/653 hope that's useful. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
