On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be > discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing > interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc > too). Perhaps LSB? /etc/sysconfig is not a file format standard. /etc/sysconfig is not a place where configuration files of the same format or purpose are stored. /etc/sysconfig is not a place used to store configuration shared by independent software packages. /etc/sysconfig is not a software package. I can't see a reason to discuss /etc/sysconfig as a single unit, nor to argue for removal of /etc/sysconfig a single unit, nor to try to form a definite consensus about /etc/sysconfig. /etc/sysconfig is a conventional place where various distribution-specific software stores its configuration. Note the two primary attributes: * _various_ software: Each file needs to be discussed separately, in the context of the software that uses it. /etc/sysconfig/{crond,iptables,nspluginwrapper} have nothing in common, and need to be considered separately together with the software that uses these files. * _distribution-specific_: There's no point in defining a common standard for software that is not commonly used. Replacing distribution-specific software by distribution-shared software may be beneficial, and it may make the distribution-specific config file obsolete, but writing the common software common needs to come _first_. Only then can we think about making the configuration common - and often we may find that breaking backward compatibility with configuration in /etc/sysconfig doesn't buy anything. This discussion really seems to be not about /etc/sysconfig, but about "configuration of the distribution-specific software in /etc/init.d that is scheduled to go away by F16" - but having a plan (and, mostly, manpower) for removing the code in F16 without having corresponding plans (_and_ manpower) for agreeing upon, implementing, and integrating, corresponding software into the various upstreams, is putting the cart before the horse. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel