On Sun, 23 May 2004, Carwyn Edwards wrote: >Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >> We do many of the same things with CFengine. > >CFengine is one of the few other "good" solutions. We're optimistic >about the Ximian/Novell/Suse merger producing something nice in this >area too. > It would be useful to get an idea of the other ones are. I started to do some research on it a couple of months ago, but work has been constant for a bit. [I am just hoping that the Ximian+Novell+SuSE merger doesnt end up a bad case of heart-burn.] >> The one thing I have found is that the syntax of CFengine really >>needs a good washing. > >Same with LCFG :-( We're in the thinktank stage prior to a rewrite. > My thinking has been something a bit more pythonish to try and use something that people might be familiar with. [Plus it gets in the craw of the fellow here who says to write it in Guile/LISP syntax so that it would be so obvious to use.] There are parts of cfengine that I really like as most of my interests are in dependable secure services and configuration management. The idea of working towards a computer immunology sort of appeals to that. However, my years at company <name withheld> also make me want something that can be implemented and commercially acceptable. I do know of someone who is trying to do a 'clean-up' of the CFengine syntax at the moment to try and make the parser smarter. -- Stephen John Smoogen smoogen@xxxxxxxx Los Alamos National Lab CCN-5 Sched 5/40 PH: 4-0645 Ta-03 SM-1498 MailStop B255 DP 10S Los Alamos, NM 87545 -- You should consider any operational computer to be a security problem --