Hi >> Its both a black screen of death and a black box process. Very frustrating. >> >> In gnome 2 when the session crashed one could still run apps (add the term >> shortut to nautilus, right click on the desktop and you have a term to launch >> a wm and a browser to look for solutions). In gnome 3 you're finished. > > Well it is just a window, you can alt-f4 out of it. tried that - you get windows up with no minimise bar etc. Close them and you get the logout warning again... Something is borked - looks like gnome-shell here. PFJ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel