I knew about the firewire modules, but not having the tmscsim module in the FC2 kernel caught me completely by surprise. And it was an extremely nasty surprise. One that left my computer *completely unbootable* in fact. It seems that when /sbin/new-kernel-pkg can't make an initial ram disk because the required scsi_hostadapter module isn't included Anaconda ignores the failure and continues on it's merry way leaving the old grub.conf in place. You know, the one that points to kernels which are no longer present? One would think modules not shipped with the kernel wouldn't be added to modprobe.conf. Being without a SCSI driver is one thing if it isn't stable, but it shouldn't leave the resulting upgrade unbootable. -- --Shahms