Hi Chris, Mcgrath and Experts
Please note,ÂVirtualBox issue listed as 11 th in the issue (Vol 88-Issue 31) seems to beÂrequiring due focus because of Smolt profile numberÂcomparison. There are definite indications that this user base will increase.
ÂI wish to suggest that we need a team to focus onÂÂVirtualization with F15 as guest. This will again look at various hosts like 32bit Mac X,64 bit Mac X,Win 64,Win 32,servers and clients. The priority of focus can be driven by the Smolt profile numbers. This task would be starting point to be driven from this point towards a full fledged support. I can volunteer for few as i also contribute to and on the lists on VirtualBox dev/test/bugs team.
I leave it to your views andÂsuggestions,experts.
Thanks and regards
Richard Vijay
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 1. Re: Linux kernel 3.0 + SELinux problem (Jerry James)
 2. Re: Linux kernel 3.0 + SELinux problem (Bruno Wolff III)
 3. Re: World IPv6 Day Problems (Alexander Bostr?m)
 4. Re: World IPv6 Day Problems (Trever L. Adams)
 5. Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID) (Ondrej Vasik)
 6. Orphaning Slim (Jan Kalu?a)
 7. Re: Orphaning Slim (Lucas)
 8. Re: Orphaning Slim (Frank Murphy)
 9. Re: Orphaning Slim (Lucas)
Â10. Re: Orphaning Slim (Lucas)
Â11. Re: F15 / VirtualBox (Chris Jones)
Â12. [FHS] helper scripts location (80)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 17:01:07 -0600
From: Jerry James <loganjerry@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux kernel 3.0 + SELinux problem
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Tom London <selinux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711015
>
> Believe updated systemd is building.
Would you believe I scanned the entire list of bugs against the
"kernel" component looking for this, and never thought about looking
at the "systemd" component? ÂThanks, Tom! ÂI'll patiently wait for the
new systemd.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 21:19:43 -0500
From: Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux kernel 3.0 + SELinux problem
To: Jerry James <loganjerry@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 17:01:07 -0600,
ÂJerry James <loganjerry@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Tom London <selinux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711015
> >
> > Believe updated systemd is building.
>
> Would you believe I scanned the entire list of bugs against the
> "kernel" component looking for this, and never thought about looking
> at the "systemd" component? ÂThanks, Tom! ÂI'll patiently wait for the
> new systemd.
You should be able to get it out of koji now. I wasn't having much luck
with the rc2 kernel though.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 07:27:46 +0200
From: Alexander Bostr?m <abo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: World IPv6 Day Problems
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ons 2011-06-08 klockan 15:07 -0600 skrev Trever L. Adams:
> After restarting from rc.local wlan0 has fe80, but not 2001 address
> assigned.
I've never used the v6 support in libvirt, so I'm guessing here, but
wlan0 is the physical interface on the host that you're running radvd
on, right? That would pick up router advertisements from the router in
your wireless LAN, if you have one.
I guess if radvd is bound to virbr0 then that interface would pick up an
address from your prefix though.
What is the output of
ip -6 addr
?
/abo
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:34:25 -0600
From: "Trever L. Adams" <trever.adams@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: World IPv6 Day Problems
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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On 06/08/2011 11:27 PM, Alexander Bostr?m wrote:
>
> I've never used the v6 support in libvirt, so I'm guessing here, but
> wlan0 is the physical interface on the host that you're running radvd
> on, right? That would pick up router advertisements from the router in
> your wireless LAN, if you have one.
>
> I guess if radvd is bound to virbr0 then that interface would pick up an
> address from your prefix though.
>
> What is the output of
>
> ip -6 addr
>
> ?
>
> /abo
>
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. my ifcfg-wlan0 has an IPv6 address that
is supposed to be assigned to wlan0. It isn't. The kernel complains
kernel: [ Â 13.872649] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
So, in my rc.local script I ifdown/ifup and it fixes it. At first I
thought it didn't, but I had a long running script that ended up before
that ifdown/ifup and so it wasn't taking. Now, the problem is only that
link is not ready junk.
Thank you,
Trever
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"SMOG: Evidence of lack of faith. It is the result of needing to see
what you breath." -- Harl Adams
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:59:20 +0200
From: Ondrej Vasik <ovasik@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Is F15 unbackuppable? (RemoveSETUID)
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On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 13:50 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> On 06/05/2011 12:32 PM, Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:39:02 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote
> >
> >> - rsync -a        ÂFAILS!
> >
> > rsync supports -X (for xattr) and -A (for ACLs), both must be
> > given explicitly.
>
> Thanks, rsync -X actually works (and I wonder why -X is not included
> in -a, just as for cp).
>
> I see tar has --xattrs. With tar -c it works (the tar file contains the
> string with the value), but tar -x does not recreate the xattr.
>
> By using strace I see that rsync does
>
> Â open(".a.eWMgCy", O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL|O_LARGEFILE, 0600) = 1
> Â fchmod(1, 0700) Â Â Â Â Â Â = 0
> Â close(1) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â= 0
> Â lstat64(".a.eWMgCy", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0700, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
> Â llistxattr(".a.eWMgCy", 0x82bb0c0, 1024) = 0
> Â lsetxattr(".a.eWMgCy", "security.capability", "\x01\x00\x00\x02\x00 \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00", 20, 0) = 0
> Â lsetxattr(".a.eWMgCy", "user.qqq", "www", 3, 0) = 0
> Â utimensat(AT_FDCWD, ".a.eWMgCy", {UTIME_NOW, {1307265135, 0}}, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0
> Â chmod(".a.eWMgCy", 0755) Â Â= 0
> Â rename(".a.eWMgCy", "a") Â Â= 0
>
> while tar -x does
>
> Â mknod("a", 0700) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â= 0
> Â setxattr("a", "user.qqq", "www", 3, 0) Â= 0
> Â open("a", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0700) = 4
> Â close(4) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â= 0
> Â utimensat(AT_FDCWD, "a", {{1307271119, 468295223}, {1307265135, 0}}, 0) = 0
> Â setxattr("a", "user.qqq", "www", 3, 0) Â= 0
> Â chown32("a", 0, 0) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â= 0
> Â chmod("a", 0755) Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â= 0
>
> Why is tar not working? ("getcap a" prints nothing)
>
Simply because tar does not store all the extended attributes. Just
limited set of them. At the moment security.capability is not among
them. Feel free to report a bugzilla against rawhide tar...
You may also consider using star... where is the support for extended
attributes present for longer time (and upstream).
Greetings,
    Ondrej Vasik
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:06:20 +0200
From: Jan Kalu?a <jkaluza@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Orphaning Slim
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Hi,
I'm not using this package and I have not checked its state before
taking the ownership (which was mistake). It doesn't work for users who
upgraded from F14 to F15 and I wasn't able to find out why exactly it
fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time.
To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who
has more time and actually still uses it.
Regards,
Jan Kaluza
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:19:19 +0400
From: Lucas <macachuto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Orphaning Slim
To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Â>Hi,
Â>
Â>I'm not using this package and I have not checked its state before
Â>taking the ownership (which was mistake). It doesn't work for users who
Â>upgraded from F14 to F15 and I wasn't able to find out why exactly it
Â>fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time.
Â>
Â>To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who
Â>has more time and actually still uses it.
Â>
Â>Regards,
Â>Jan Kaluza
You will be surprised, but I use it with Fedora 14, 15, and now with Rawhide. It works and quite
good actually.
So, thanks for making rpm.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 10:23:16 +0100
From: Frank Murphy <frankly3d@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Orphaning Slim
To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 09/06/11 10:19, Lucas wrote:
> Â >Hi,
> Â >
> Â >I'm not using this package and I have not checked its state before
> Â >taking the ownership (which was mistake). It doesn't work for users who
> Â >upgraded from F14 to F15 and I wasn't able to find out why exactly it
> Â >fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time.
> Â >
> Â >To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who
> Â >has more time and actually still uses it.
> Â >
> Â >Regards,
> Â >Jan Kaluza
>
Check with the Xfce maintainers,
they believe it's dead upstream.
--
Regards,
Frank Murphy
UTF_8 Encoded
Friend of Fedora
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:34:19 +0400
From: Lucas <macachuto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Orphaning Slim
To: devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 06/09/2011 01:19 PM, Lucas wrote:
> Â>Hi,
> Â>
> Â>I'm not using this package and I have not checked its state before
> Â>taking the ownership (which was mistake). It doesn't work for users who
> Â>upgraded from F14 to F15 and I wasn't able to find out why exactly it
> Â>fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time.
> Â>
> Â>To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who
> Â>has more time and actually still uses it.
> Â>
> Â>Regards,
> Â>Jan Kaluza
>
> You will be surprised, but I use it with Fedora 14, 15, and now with Rawhide. It works and quite
> good actually.
>
> So, thanks for making rpm.
Â>
Â> Check with the Xfce maintainers,
Â> they believe it's dead upstream.
What kind of relation between Xfce maintainers and SLIM. I always thought SLIM is just display
manager, which can start whatever I want.
Thanks
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:40:13 +0400
From: Lucas <macachuto@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Orphaning Slim
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On 06/09/2011 01:34 PM, Lucas wrote:
> On 06/09/2011 01:19 PM, Lucas wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I'm not using this package and I have not checked its state before
>> >taking the ownership (which was mistake). It doesn't work for users who
>> >upgraded from F14 to F15 and I wasn't able to find out why exactly it
>> >fails. There are also some bugs untouched for long time.
>> >
>> >To sum it up, it is probably better to hand it over to someone else who
>> >has more time and actually still uses it.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Jan Kaluza
>>
>> You will be surprised, but I use it with Fedora 14, 15, and now with Rawhide. It works and quite
>> good actually.
>>
>> So, thanks for making rpm.
> Â>
> Â> Check with the Xfce maintainers,
> Â> they believe it's dead upstream.
ÂWhat kind of relation between Xfce maintainers and SLIM. I always thought SLIM is just display
Âmanager, which can start whatever I want.
Thanks
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:01:06 +1000
From: "Chris Jones" <chrisjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: F15 / VirtualBox
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
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Quoting "Mike McGrath" <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> I've seen some reports of F15 not working in Virtualbox. ÂThere's a few
> notes online about possible fixes. ÂIs there some way we can better test
> this in the future (I'm thinking about QA but that might not be the right
> place).
>
> Smolt has virtualbox rated as pretty common:
>
> http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html
>
> Just seems like we're potentially missing a lot of potential users there.
> It's preventing the default live CD from running.
>
> Â Â Â -Mike
I agree. As virtualization technology becomes more and more involved
and frequent on users systems, particularly with advanced Linux users,
I think there needs to be a strong focus on ensuring that all releases
run in virtualized environments without any major issues. ie.
Virtualbox.
Perhaps a dedicated team among the developers who specialize in this area.
Regards
Chris Jones
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:14:45 +0200
From: 80 <karlthered@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [FHS] helper scripts location
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
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Hi,
I'm reviewing osc and osc-source_validators (osc is Opensuse Build
Service CLI, the latter a plugin to the former).
An issue arose about helpers script location:
1) Fedora packaging guidelines suggests helpers *should go*
/usr/libexec for helpers ==> requires patching since osc search
helpers in /usr/lib
since it's not in FHS, it's almost certain that a patch won't be upstream-able
2) FHS explicitely allows shell scripts in /usr/lib
3) FHS doesn't forbid putting them in /usr/share as helpers could be
considered as "arch independent data"
There are recent packages that choose options 2 && 3 (namely, systemd
and dracut).
According to me, guidelines doesn't enforce any of these options, and
choice is left to packager/reviewer appreciation, though you may
distinguish an order of precedence.
So, what's the take of my fellow packagers on that particular matter ?
Best regards,
H.
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