On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> You could say Bastien should have stopped the upnp package building at >> all rather than making it empty, but then if he didn't make something >> obsolete it, old versions would have stuck around and caused trouble, >> and if he makes something obsolete it, then re-introducing it when it >> actually works becomes more complex. > > One thing I forgot, btw - we can't disallow empty packages in general, > because an empty package is a perfectly allowable and sometimes useful > thing: an empty package with some dependencies is what we mean when we > talk about 'metapackages'. So if you have a suite of packages which are > generally installed and work together, you can create an empty package > with dependencies on all the packages that typically go together to make > up that suite, and the user can just do 'yum install foobar' and get all > the right packages to make the Foobar suite work as intended. The use of > metapackages is generally somewhat frowned on in Fedora in favour of > comps-based groups, but there are a few. Thank you for the clarification. Poking around the Internets led me to believe that the totem-upnp plugin and coherence is dead. However, there is work is under way to make a totem grilo plugin that switches the upnp framework to Rygel. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628648 I'll keep my eyes open and hope that plugin makes it into F15 soon. /Mike -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel