Hi Adam. On Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:48:04 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, all. So, although the Fedora 15 final release has been signed off > on, we gave ourselves a bit of wiggle room. The current Sugar > implementation is known to have some significant issues, the major one > of which is that networking is badly broken. We are aiming to try and > fix these and do the Sugar-on-a-stick live spin late, incorporating > these fixes, as they do not need to touch any of the other live images > or the DVD. > > The problem with networking is the NetworkManager 0.9 API change; it > caught Sugar, both upstream and within Fedora, a bit off guard. When the > change was discussed by FESCo the needs of KDE and anaconda were > considered and a plan developed, but no-one caught that the same problem > affected Sugar: Sugar has its own interface to NetworkManager, and that > needs to be either ported to 0.9, or adjusted to use the fallback 0.8ish > API that was implemented for knetworkmanager to use. I think compat interface is the only possible way to have working port in the specified time frame. I'm not sure about Sugar implementation - it should be easy - take a look on our patch, mostly sed should help (but really depends if it is using DBus interface or glib one?). Altough there are two problems: - compat interface does not contain everything what's available in NM now but that's not a problem - there's at least one bug that makes it hard for some cases Compat interface is only temporary solution, in KDE land we have initial NM 0.9 port but it's not yet ready, target are autumn distros releases. > Unfortunately, our go-to Sugar guy, Peter Robinson, is struggling with > doing this as it's not really in his wheelhouse, and our upstream > contact at Sugar is busy with travel and Sugar release problems, so > getting this done has not been smooth sailing so far. Peter would be > very grateful of any help anyone could offer with the porting effort (to > either the 0.9 or 0.8-ish interface within current NetworkManager; we > don't care which, we just want typical Sugar networking to work. I've never touched Sugar code but I'll try to take a look what's needed. Cannot promise anything! > We'd like to get this done so we can still spin up a Sugar live image > and push it out for release day, which is May 24, but in any case, the > sooner the better. If you'd like to help with this, please contact > Peter, myself, or Jared Smith via email or IRC, or just reply to this > mail. Peter's IRC nick is pbrobinson, mine is adamw, and Jared's is > jsmith. Thanks a lot! -- Jaroslav ÅeznÃk <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel