It's also not clear why logging goes to the console for mail services: [ 109.727642] imaps[1921]: accepted connection [ 109.732264] master[2201]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/imapd [ 109.743816] imaps[2201]: executed [ 109.747260] imaps[2201]: IOERROR: opening /var/lib/imap/user_deny.db: No such file or directory [ 109.771049] imaps[1921]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters [ 109.779852] imaps[1921]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait [ 109.795633] imaps[1921]: SSL_accept() succeeded -> done [ 109.801085] imaps[1921]: starttls: TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits new) no authentication [ 109.811790] imaps[1921]: login: macbook.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.17] spamdrop plain+TLS User logged in [ 109.821952] imaps[1921]: created decompress buffer of 4102 bytes [ 109.828071] imaps[1921]: created compress buffer of 4102 bytes [ 109.834073] imaps[1921]: open: user spamdrop opened INBOX [ 122.205661] mimedefang.pl[1962]: relay: [86.108.15.132] [86.108.15.132:2629] => 192.168.1.3:25 [ 122.214467] mimedefang.pl[1962]: relay: reject country jo (86.108.15.132:2629) [ 122.221819] mimedefang.pl[1962]: filter_relay rejected host 86.108.15.132 ([86.108.15.132]) [ 122.230323] sendmail[2202]: p4E63wVv002202: Milter: connect: host=[86.108.15.132], addr=86.108.15.132, rejecting commands [ 203.801257] imaps[1920]: accepted connection [ 203.805716] master[2207]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/imapd [ 203.817442] imaps[2207]: executed [ 203.820872] imaps[2207]: IOERROR: opening /var/lib/imap/user_deny.db: No such file or directory [ 203.841490] imaps[1920]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters [ 203.850335] imaps[1920]: SSL_accept() incomplete -> wait ... At least this happens with the console is specified as "console=ttyS0,115200n8" on the "kernel" line in grub. Note that my /etc/rsyslog.conf file is unmodified. -Philip -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel