Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> said: >> Newsflash: the network service is DEPRECATED!!! That's what NetworkManager >> is for. > > Newsflash: NM doesn't replace the network service yet. Maybe when NM > can do everything ifup/ifdown can do, the discussion about deprecation > can happen, but until then, please stop saying NM replaces the network > service. One thing I liked a lot with my ifconfig scripts/wpa_supplicant pairing is that when wireless is spotty, the network doesn't keep going up and down. Instead, applications see lots of dropped packets. When reauthentication can take 5 to 10s (or more), assuming that the connection is steady when its just spotty can result in better behavior. Also nice when quickly swapping ethernet cables. A "network is gone" event gets different reactions from applications (particularly those that are NM-aware which makes those applications MUCH more annoying to deal with in these cases) than "some packets were lost". An option to "persist connections despite something probably not actually existing" would be nice for situations like this. --Ben -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel