Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-04-15/f-15-blocker-review.2011-04-15-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-04-15/f-15-blocker-review.2011-04-15-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-04-15/f-15-blocker-review.2011-04-15-17.00.log.html Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (jlaska, 17:00:57) * Intro (jlaska, 17:04:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (jlaska, 17:04:42) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (jlaska, 17:04:45) * We are meeting to review proposed and accepted *final* release blockers to determine whether they impact the release criteria, and are getting the attention they need (jlaska, 17:05:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria (jlaska, 17:05:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/676114 (jlaska, 17:05:56) * iscsi --target kickstart option not actually used (jlaska, 17:06:00) * Appears to be resolved in F-15-Beta (jlaska, 17:09:31) * Asked reporter for additional feedback (jlaska, 17:09:38) * AGREED: 676114 will moved to CLOSED ERRATA next week if not VERIFIED (jlaska, 17:10:15) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/679814 (jlaska, 17:10:29) * [abrt] gnome-user-share-2.30.2-4.fc15: do_pre_parse_initialization: Process /usr/libexec/gnome-user-share was killed by signal 6 (SIGABRT) (jlaska, 17:10:36) * AGREED: 679814 - problem no longer occurs, recommend moving to CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 17:14:07) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/684214 (jlaska, 17:14:49) * [abrt] libmtp-examples-1.0.5-2.fc15: op_reset_device: Process /usr/bin/mtp-detect was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 17:15:06) * Submitted for stable, will land when freeze is lifted (jlaska, 17:16:21) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/689260 (jlaska, 17:16:29) * [abrt] nautilus-2.91.91-1.fc15: gtk_action_group_add_action: Process /usr/bin/nautilus was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 17:16:41) * ACTION: jlaska - ping cosimoc whether a fix for 689260 was included in nautilus (jlaska, 17:21:08) * AGREED: 689260 - appears to be resolved as of F-15-Beta. Jlaska will contact cosimoc to see whether bug was fixed in recently nautilus (jlaska, 17:21:31) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/676551 (jlaska, 17:21:48) * no prompt for mediacheck (jlaska, 17:22:00) * AGREED: 676551 - Mediacheck prompt now enabled in F-15-Beta, move bug to CLOSED ERRATA. Ask steve tyler to report a new issue for his concern about netinst (jlaska, 17:27:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/678413 (jlaska, 17:27:59) * NFS ISO installs require the presence of .treeinfo (jlaska, 17:28:06) * AGREED: 678413 - AcceptedBlocker, already fixed in F-15-Beta, moved to CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 17:29:32) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/678675 (jlaska, 17:29:54) * RuntimeError: Unable to locate a needed executable: 'brcm_iscsiuio' (jlaska, 17:29:59) * The installer must be able to complete an installation using IDE, SATA, SCSI and iSCSI storage devices (jlaska, 17:30:42) * AGREED: 678675 - AcceptedBlocker, already confirmed fix against F-15-Beta. Move to VERIFIED -> CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 17:32:29) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/695389 (jlaska, 17:32:57) * Traceback when writing a kickstart for an unused lvm-on-raid (TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable) (jlaska, 17:33:06) * will be available for testing in anaconda-15.28-1 (jlaska, 17:33:51) * AGREED: 695389 - AcceptedBlocker, fix will arrive in next anaconda build (jlaska, 17:35:11) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/696724 (jlaska, 17:35:17) * findFirstIsoImage doesn't return the right value (jlaska, 17:35:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/InstallSourceHardDrive (jlaska, 17:36:43) * The installer must be able to use all supported local and remote package source options (jlaska, 17:37:53) * Unclear how F-15-Beta HD-ISO installs succeed while this bug is present (jlaska, 17:38:56) * AGREED: 696724 - AcceptedBlocker for Final, appears to impact HD-ISO installs (jlaska, 17:40:11) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/693504 (jlaska, 17:40:44) * "chkconfig NetworkManager off" does not disable the legacy NetworkManager script (jlaska, 17:40:59) * AGREED: 693504 - RejectedBlocker and RejectedNTH. No impact to existing criteria (jlaska, 17:47:04) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/696832 (jlaska, 17:47:22) * Default Install of F15-desktop does not contain fedora desktop as default (jlaska, 17:47:28) * The proposed final Fedora artwork must be included and enabled by default for the installer, graphical boot, firstboot, graphical login and desktop background. All Fedora artwork must be consistent with the proposed final theme, and if any artwork contains a graphical version number, the version number used must match the Fedora release number. Generic release artwork (e.g. Alpha, Beta, Development) must not be used for the fi (jlaska, 17:48:08) * ACTION: jlaska - note in retrospective that a test case is needed to capture fedora artwork criteria (jlaska, 17:49:03) * AGREED: 696832 - AcceptedBlocker, impacts final release criteria (and possibly Alpha criteria as well) (jlaska, 17:50:17) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683145 (jlaska, 17:51:26) * [abrt] gnome-packagekit-2.91.90-1.fc15: g_settings_schema_new: Process /usr/bin/gpk-prefs was killed by signal 6 (SIGABRT) (jlaska, 17:51:41) * AGREED: 683145 - AcceptedNTH, impacts final criterai for XFCE spin (and possibly LXDE) (jlaska, 17:56:05) * Adamw adjusted the XFCE blocker bug to block F15-accepted; if you hit any bugs in Xfce testing that you think actually do qualify as general release blockers, please just tag them as blocking F15Blocker directly (jlaska, 17:56:16) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694889 (jlaska, 17:56:28) * GTK+ 3 applications are not themed (jlaska, 17:56:34) * AGREED: 694889 - AcceptedNTH. Polish issue that can't easily be addressed post-release update (jlaska, 18:00:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694897 (jlaska, 18:00:54) * Icons missing in desktop menu (jlaska, 18:00:59) * AGREED: 694897 - AcceptedNTH, impacts application icon criteria for XFCE spin (jlaska, 18:03:23) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/676520 (jlaska, 18:04:08) * [abrt] empathy-2.91.6.1-3.fc15: g_list_length: Process /usr/bin/empathy-accounts was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 18:04:13) * AGREED: 676520 - AcceptedBlocker, appears to be resolved as of F-15-Beta. Recommend moving to CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 18:08:25) * mclasen noted this bug only occurs when a11y is enabled (jlaska, 18:08:46) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/675652 (jlaska, 18:08:50) * Can't start alternative (non-default) DE with gdm-2.91.6-2.fc15 (jlaska, 18:09:05) * AGREED: 675652 - AcceptedBlocker. Recommend CLOSED ERRATA as this has been resolved for some time (jlaska, 18:11:52) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/678236 (jlaska, 18:13:55) * User list sometimes not visible on greeter (jlaska, 18:14:00) * ACTION: tflink - request test feedback on autologin experience with F-15-Beta-RC2 (jlaska, 18:20:49) * AGREED: 678236 - AcceptedNTH for final, leave blocks:F15Blocker for discussion at next meeting (jlaska, 18:22:09) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/695446 (jlaska, 18:22:37) * What the FEDORA? (jlaska, 18:22:45) * The proposed final Fedora artwork must be included and enabled by default for the installer, graphical boot, firstboot, graphical login and desktop background. All Fedora artwork must be consistent with the proposed final theme, and if any artwork contains a graphical version number, the version number used must match the Fedora release number. Generic release artwork (e.g. Alpha, Beta, Development) must not be used for the fi (jlaska, 18:23:18) * AGREED: 695446 - AcceptedBlocker for final - Pending bodhi update implies this indeed was an unintentional change, and impacts the final release artwork criteria (jlaska, 18:24:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/676437 (jlaska, 18:25:54) * Build gjs against the standalone SpiderMonkey package 'js', not XULRunner's copy (jlaska, 18:25:59) * AGREED: 676437 - RejectedBlocker + RejectedNTH. Does not impact release criteria and can be resolved as an update. Will accept fix prior to freeze if available + tested (jlaska, 18:30:57) * (jlaska, 18:31:12) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/685142 (jlaska, 18:31:53) * Menu problems with fallback mode (jlaska, 18:32:02) * AGREED: 685142 - AcceptedNTH - Does not impact any release criteria, nor does it prevent a user from upgrading using yum or PackageKit. Will take a tested fix if available (jlaska, 18:37:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/674895 (jlaska, 18:37:32) * [abrt] gnome-power-manager-2.91.5-2.fc15: Process /usr/bin/gnome-power-manager was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 18:37:47) * AGREED: 674895 - AcceptedBlocker, appears to be long since resolved. Recommend CLOSED ERRATA (jlaska, 18:39:37) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/684218 (jlaska, 18:39:49) * [abrt] gnome-shell-2.91.91-1.fc15: gjs_object_from_g_object: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 18:39:57) * AGREED: 684218 - RejectedBlocker - check with reporter + mclasen to see if this has been resolved recently (jlaska, 18:44:31) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/689012 (jlaska, 18:44:47) * Very hard to resize a window (jlaska, 18:44:54) * AGREED: 689012 - RejectedBlocker + RejectedNTH - does not impact any final release criteria. Will include a tested fix prior to freeze. (jlaska, 18:48:16) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/674799 (jlaska, 18:48:36) * Isn't dragged in for upgrades (jlaska, 18:48:42) * AGREED: 674799 - request test and impact feedback in bug - leave on list for next meeting (jlaska, 18:53:59) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/658387 (jlaska, 18:54:11) * Patch to allow mbkernel and mbargs to be read from /etc/sysconfig/kernel (jlaska, 18:54:18) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xen/2011-April/005430.html (tflink, 18:55:53) * AGREED: 658387 - RejectedBlocker - Feature dropped from F-15 release (jlaska, 18:56:04) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/668063 (jlaska, 18:56:23) * Grubby does not handle "template" that uses module keywork properly (jlaska, 18:56:29) * AGREED: 658387 - RejectedBlocker - Feature dropped from F-15 release (jlaska, 18:57:33) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/696510 (jlaska, 18:57:41) * need a dependency in ibus-gtk3 for imsettings-gnome (jlaska, 18:57:47) * AGREED: 696510 - Unclear impact to release criteria - Request more information in bug, and review at next meeting (jlaska, 19:02:11) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/693809 (jlaska, 19:02:36) * no imsettings-gnome installed on upgrading (jlaska, 19:02:48) * AGREED: 693809 - RejectedBlocker + RejectedNTH - does not impact release critera, can be fixed as an update - Will accept a tested update prior to Final freeze (jlaska, 19:06:05) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/692187 (jlaska, 19:06:53) * /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs: line 47: mdadm: command not found (jlaska, 19:07:04) * AGREED: 692187 - RejectedBlocker - already fixed in proposed update (jlaska, 19:08:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/695280 (jlaska, 19:09:10) * Installer unable to find correct dvd from nfsiso repository containing a set of images (jlaska, 19:09:18) * ACTION: jlaska - review NFSISO test and install-guide to ensure desired .ISO is the only ISO in directory (jlaska, 19:11:02) * AGREED: 695280 - RejectedBlocker - documentation bugs do not impact existing release criteria (jlaska, 19:11:55) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661395 (jlaska, 19:12:50) * some keyboard options/layouts (set via system-config-keyboard) make gdm/kdm input non-functional (jlaska, 19:12:55) * AGREED: 661395 - AcceptedBLocker - Request updated test feedback in bug, and monitor for progress (jlaska, 19:16:13) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683629 (jlaska, 19:16:22) * KWin doesn't start up in firstboot, error message: Configuration file "/root/.kde/share/config/kdedrc" not writable (jlaska, 19:16:28) * AGREED: 683629 - AcceptedBlocker - Kind-a-sort-a-almost impacts firstboot and AVC-boot criteria (jlaska, 19:25:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684214 (jlaska, 19:26:16) * [abrt] libmtp-examples-1.0.5-2.fc15: op_reset_device: Process /usr/bin/mtp-detect was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 19:26:22) * already discussed (jlaska, 19:26:42) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684846 (jlaska, 19:26:47) * gnome-keyring not working in KDE (jlaska, 19:26:52) * AGREED: 684846 - AcceptedBlocker - impacts default desktop keyring criteria for KDE, request updated test feedback from report (jlaska, 19:28:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/680542 (jlaska, 19:28:59) * AGREED: 680542 - RejectedBlocker - no criteria impacted, will follow-up with a release notes change (jlaska, 19:35:40) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/693442 (jlaska, 19:35:53) * LINK: http://wiki.debian.org/sky2 (tflink, 19:38:52) * AGREED: 693442 - NEEDINFO - Request and review additional information at next meeting (jlaska, 19:39:39) * ACTION: jlaska - ping gospo about sky2 bug 693442 (jlaska, 19:39:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/681898 (jlaska, 19:39:59) * AGREED: 681898 - RejectedBlocker + AcceptedNTH - local DOS doesn't impact existing criteria, pending update available for testing (jlaska, 19:43:38) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/656093 (jlaska, 19:44:02) * [abrt] nautilus-2.91.2-1.fc15: Process /usr/bin/nautilus was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (jlaska, 19:44:08) * AGREED: 656093 - CLOSED ERRATA - No longer occurs in F15 (jlaska, 19:47:55) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/697008 (jlaska, 19:48:06) * Include the latest ntfs-3g package in the final F-15 compose (jlaska, 19:48:10) * AGREED: 697008 - RejectedBlocker + RejectedNTH - does not impact any release criteria (jlaska, 19:49:54) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/696240 (jlaska, 19:50:57) * report is filing Fedora 15 installer bugs against rawhide (not Fedora 15) (jlaska, 19:51:05) * AGREED: 696240 - RejectedBlocker + AcceptedNTH - arguably impacts Alpha criteria, will accept tested fix if available (jlaska, 19:57:36) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/694256 (jlaska, 19:58:19) * SELinux is preventing /sbin/iscsid from 'create' accesses on the directory iscsi. (jlaska, 19:58:25) * The installer must be able to complete an installation using IDE, SATA, SCSI and iSCSI storage devices (jlaska, 20:00:44) * AGREED: 694256 - AcceptedBlocker - impacts iSCSI and AVC-boot criteria - fix available for testing (jlaska, 20:01:58) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682001 (adamw, 20:03:12) * AGREED: 682001 - AcceptedBlocker - impacts basic usability (tflink, 20:06:10) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692230 (adamw, 20:06:42) * AGREED: - 692230 - need more information, will revisit next week (tflink, 20:10:33) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=695407 (tflink, 20:10:41) * AGREED: - 695407 - rejected blocker, rejected NTH - does not hit criteria but better behavior would be preferred (tflink, 20:14:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=696320 (tflink, 20:15:01) * AGREED: - 696320 - AcceptedBlocker - impacts installation on iSCSI (tflink, 20:19:09) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644739 (tflink, 20:19:25) * does not hit release criteria but a polish issue (tflink, 20:23:05) * AGREED: - 644739 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - does not keep anything from functioning but is a polish issue and an annoyance (tflink, 20:23:14) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678656 (tflink, 20:23:28) * ACTION: tflink to update 678656 to ask for more info (tflink, 20:25:53) * AGREED: - 678656 - not clear on the impact of this bug, need more info and will revisit next week (tflink, 20:26:01) * end of proposed blockers (tflink, 20:29:02) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694765 (tflink, 20:29:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691139 (tflink, 20:32:55) * an annoyance and similar to 691139 - NTH (tflink, 20:33:21) * AGREED: - 694765 - AcceptedNTH since it is an annoyance and should work (tflink, 20:33:30) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693302 (tflink, 20:33:52) * close to hitting alpha release criteria - "The installer must be able to use the HTTP, FTP and NFS remote package source options" but doesn't seem to be common (tflink, 20:37:19) * ACCEPTED: - 693302 - AcceptedNTH, close to hitting release criterion but seems to be an edge case (tflink, 20:37:26) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662800 (tflink, 20:37:44) * ACCEPTED: - 662800 - RejectedNTH - tested fix would be accepted before freeze (tflink, 20:42:30) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683265 (tflink, 20:42:53) * need more info on cause, whether or not this is related to USB 3.0 HW (tflink, 20:47:11) * AGREED: - 683265 - request for more info on impact and cause. Will revisit next week (tflink, 20:47:23) * ACTION: tflink to update 683265 with request for more information (tflink, 20:47:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662791 (tflink, 20:48:01) * AGREED: - 662791 - RejectedNTH: does not impact release criteria and not installed by default. Tested fix will be accepted before freeze if ready (tflink, 20:52:16) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662801 (tflink, 20:52:32) * AGREED: - 662801 - RejectedNTH: not a default program and can be fixed with update. Tested fix will be accepted if ready before freeze (tflink, 20:55:43) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653709 (tflink, 20:55:58) * AGREED: - 653709 - RejectedNTH: only adds noise to .xsession-errors, not serious. Fix available for testing and could use karma. Can revisit if it turns out to be more serious (tflink, 21:01:05) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662794 (tflink, 21:01:26) * AGREED: - 662794 - RejectedNTH: Not installed by default and can be fixed by an update post-release. Tested fix would be accepted before freeze (tflink, 21:04:44) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681582 (tflink, 21:05:05) * AGREED: - 681582 - AcceptedNTH, this is a pain and could cause users to think that their system is broken (tflink, 21:06:34) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694928 (tflink, 21:06:44) * AGREED: - 694928 - AcceptedNTH: causes problems in anaconda and possibly other sw but doesn't clearly hit any release criteria. Fix has been submitted and needs testing (tflink, 21:10:48) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662788 (tflink, 21:11:22) * AGREED: - 662788 - RejectedNTH: seahorse-plugins is not a default package and this can be fixed with an update. Tested fix would be accepted before freze (tflink, 21:16:15) * open discussion - any other issues? (tflink, 21:17:26) Meeting ended at 21:20:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jlaska - ping cosimoc whether a fix for 689260 was included in nautilus * jlaska - note in retrospective that a test case is needed to capture fedora artwork criteria * tflink - request test feedback on autologin experience with F-15-Beta-RC2 * jlaska - review NFSISO test and install-guide to ensure desired .ISO is the only ISO in directory * jlaska - ping gospo about sky2 bug 693442 * tflink to update 678656 to ask for more info * tflink to update 683265 with request for more information Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jlaska * jlaska - ping cosimoc whether a fix for 689260 was included in nautilus * jlaska - note in retrospective that a test case is needed to capture fedora artwork criteria * jlaska - review NFSISO test and install-guide to ensure desired .ISO is the only ISO in directory * jlaska - ping gospo about sky2 bug 693442 * tflink * tflink - request test feedback on autologin experience with F-15-Beta-RC2 * tflink to update 678656 to ask for more info * tflink to update 683265 with request for more information * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jlaska (561) * adamw (383) * tflink (291) * brunowolff (95) * mclasen (32) * buggbot (28) * clumens (28) * jsmith (28) * dgilmore (19) * zodbot (8) * nirik (6) * dmalcolm (4) * rbergeron (3) * jsmith-brb (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
