As my job and family responsibilities have shifted over time, I have been giving less and less attention to the FTBFS (fails to build from source) process that I started 5 years ago on a "see, it _can_ be done" lark. I think FTBFS has been valuable. Through the process, hundreds, maybe even a couple thousand, bugs have been discovered and fixed before they affected our users or downstream remixes and derivatives. I find the breakage, file bugs, and the package owners fix them. Sure, I get the occasional "why are you filling my mailbox with this" message, but overall, the response has been very positive. Question is, is it valuable enough to the Project as a whole, that someone else should take it on now? If so, should it become standard process of the Project, rather than a personal project? With resources (koji servers) owned and managed by the project, instead of the servers I could scrounge? FTBFS cuts across Packagers, BugZappers, QA, Developers, and Release Engineering. As such, I think it needs to be part of standard processes for the Project. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel