Jon, have you seen nmcli? If you can't do what you want to with it, maybe a feature request is in order. I get the impression that NM will generally do the right thing for most people most of the time, and when we are hacking on firmware, running a tftp server and the like we might want to use nmcli to take a device temporarily from NM's clutches and take manual control. I'm not sure it that's possible though with the current nmcli. I tried nmcli dev disconnect iface eth0 on my netbook which was connected to wlan0 and had nothing on eth0 - it errored saying that eth0 wasn't active to start with. I think keeping NM running for the system is a good thing, taking one device over for your own purposes is a better thing to do *if possible* than disabling NM entirely. -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
