On 03/17/2011 12:41 PM, Miloslav TrmaÄ wrote: > Colin Walters pÃÅe v Ät 17. 03. 2011 v 13:45 -0400: >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Daniel J Walsh<dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Are we turning on the wheel group in sudo? >> >> It would clearly match doing so for pkexec, but would then be bizarre >> because the Fedora installer still asks you to make up a root >> password. The whole thing is really a mess without any plan for where >> things are going. >> >> Is there any plan, anywhere? Where was the design behind firstboot >> adding the checkbox? > > Having such a facility would probably make life for quite a few users > easier - but the interface does need more thought. > > The checkbox currently reads: "Add to Administrators group". > > * There is no "Administrators" group, users won't know what has > actually happened. > > * This concept new, and not familiar to any group of existing users: > > - UNIX users know what a "group" is, but never heard of an > "Administrators" group (n.b. with a capital :) ) > > - Windows users know what an "Administrators group" is, but > it behaves differently: "Why can't I browse to /var/log/audit > with Nautilus? It does not let me view the directory, and does > not present me with an option to override this. I'm an > administrator!" In addition to the above... many people (in the windows world) are being taught to setup their own 'Admin' user to do the installation / management stuff so that virus' can't get additional rights etc... They could transfer that same assumption... -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
