> Well, I'm not asking to slavishly copy apt. I'm asking to add a feature > that I've found to be very useful when using apt. I'm sure Seth is smart > enough one can use the a* word without ending in /dev/null actually I have a mail filter - if any mail matches a* then it goes to /dev/null :) - fortunately that means I don't see much mail at all. (whoops, I won't see this one either, I just said 'all') :) > I'm afraid even on a local network downloads are not so fast it's > scrolling madly. On a normal broadband link there is not much in yum to > show things are actually progressing and not stuck on a mirror. The progress bars on download aren't enough information? When a mirror fails over it says it's executing the failover. So I think there is some progress, but only when there's an error. > Granted, some people might prefer a lighter reporting. But surely > putting this kind of info in debug is a bit of overkill, don't you > think ? not really. The debug mode means the user can see the data that is more beneficial to them. > More than cryptic messages users hate stuff that seems stuck doing > nothing. All the daunting apt reporting at least shows magic is > currently happening. (and a lot of people do know how to interpret it > btw) I'm not sure when it is that yum gets stuck doing things and not reporting any information. It might do this if you've set your debuglevel below the default of 2 - but then that's the point of having the lower debuglevels - their a quiet mode. -sv