As the Fedora 14 update of Audacious from 2.4.0 to 2.4.3 has not been smooth at all and is still annoying users, who need 3rd party plugin packages which still haven't been pushed, the following consequences are arising IMO: Fedora 13 I'm offering Audacious 2.2 (audacious-2.2-16 and audacious-plugins-2.2-38) in Fedora 13 to anyone interested in taking over. In other words, consider Audacious in Fedora 13 semi-orphaned. In my point of view, it works well enough that it doesn't need an upgrade to 2.4.x. Though, a lot has changed in the 2.4 series, and certainly there are additional bug-fixes included. If to be upgraded in Fedora 13, this would need the cooperation (and extra-work) of 3rd party plugin package providers. Special precautions are to be taken as not to repeat the problems we've run into with this recent update in Fedora 14. Whether Fedora 13 is "new enough" with regard to all dependencies remains to be examined by whomever. I believe that users with interest in later software ought to upgrade to Fedora 14. Fedora 14 Even before a strong RPM dependency in 3rd party plugin packages is available to prevent breaking of decoder plugins, I have created a custom repository for Audacious 2.5-alpha1 - which btw breaks the Plugin API again and requires actual code changes and not just rebuilds: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/mschwendt/audacious-2.5/fedora-audacious-2.5.repo This is not only for users to take a sneak peek at Audacious 2.5 development, but also to emphasize that the dependency on 3rd party plugin packages can be problematic. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel