On Thu, 16.12.10 22:02, Miloslav TrmaÄ (mitr@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > Casey Dahlin pÃÅe v Ät 16. 12. 2010 v 15:50 -0500: > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:16:53PM +0100, Miloslav TrmaÄ wrote: > > > Especially minor changes that don't bring any measurable benefit > > > (perhaps making the system "cleaner" or making programmer's life more > > > convenient) but require time from each user to adapt are better > > > abandoned than implemented. > > > Mirek > > > > Measurable != significant. Great programmers and architects have an instinct > > for something called "defect avoidance." You can't measure it, since the unit > > would be "number of bugs/bug-related outages and problems which never > > happened." Depending on your instincts on what that value might be, "cleaner" > > could be the single most important thing to improve in the entire distro. > > The trouble is that we can't all agree on the immeasurable benefits (but > we can probably agree on the existence of the measurable costs), which > is why the monster threads about systemd arrive so regularly. Do they? I guess as long as they are only about whether to set noexec on /dev/shm by default then we did quite a few things right, didn't we? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel