> I haven't read anything from anyone that says to "shut up". In fact, > I've read quite the opposite. cf > https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-April/msg00756.html > ("Actually, keep it and tell me what we can do to fix it."), for example. Except that suggestions were given, ideas were presented and we've heard NOTHING from either gafton or hogan since the WorldWide meeting. what now? -sv