Marcela MaÅlÃÅovà pÃÅe v Ãt 14. 12. 2010 v 14:55 +0100: > On 12/14/2010 02:24 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 01:53:37PM +0100, Miloslav TrmaÄ wrote: > >> Changing the semantics of /etc/fstab without any consultation with > >> fedora-devel or even notification of Fedora that something so > >> long-standing is changing is hardly constructive either. > >> > >> I can happily live with "systemd is a new, better init system" without > >> knowing the details. I consider "systemd replaces 15% of /etc and > >> changes semantics of another 5%" without discussing the details in > >> advance unacceptable for the distribution as a whole, although this > >> decision is of course FESCo's. > >> Mirek > > Let's keep discussion calm and technical. > > âSystemd contains native implementations of various tasks that need to > > be executed as part of the boot process. For example, it sets the host name > > or configures the loopback network device. It also sets up and > > mounts various API file systems, such as /sys or /proc.â > > > > We saw it includes /dev, /dev/shm etc. Is there any *reasonable* need > > to mount sysfs somewhere else than /sys. Or /dev with mode other than 755? > > Those all directories are mounted _identically_ on every Linux distribution > > down here. Why pollute fstab with repeated lines on million machines? > > > > I can see that it may look like taking power from admin, but has > > anyone ever changed how devpts is mounted? Really? Being able > > to change for the sake of ability is not always sane. There are > > things which we can change, and some things which shouldn't be touched > > by admin. And I'm not proposing dumbing down admin. Back when > > I run Slackware I rewrote part of the initscripts to suit me. > > But really, admin should worry about important things, better > > leave boring (and identical across distros) parts to someone else. > > > > Original problem could be solved by configuring some scratch > > tmpfs in /mnt/scratch or somewhere else. > > > The problem is not the technical solution. Problem is that changes of > such important thing like /etc/fstab are decided without Fedora developers. > Usually such change would be discussed before on list and it would be > feature for new Fedora. It's not even mentioned on Systemd Feature page. +1 This is (was?) UNIX. No single person knows about all the creative and important ways that users have configured the system to suit their needs. Dropping system-wide features should be a conscious decision, not something we accidentally discover several months later when user complaints start to come in. Mirek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
