On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 10:51 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > Here's some of my pet irritations with abrt. Feel free to add your own, > but please keep the gratuitous "me too"ing to a minimum. > > 1) The generated reports contain far too little information for library > owners. Consider this report: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=658013 > > I get the EVRs for the kernel, and for the executable that happened to > be running, but not for any of the libraries in between, even though the > report very carefully tells me exactly which DSOs are loaded and where > they are in memory. Gratuitous me too! But more seriously, I filed this a while back as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=555205 "RFE: include "rpm -qf" output for all memory-mapped DSOs" This would be a great boon to things like python where you can have an arbitrary amount of DSOs mapped into your process, from pretty much the whole of the distribution (which is both a good and a bad thing; would love to sandbox python modules, but that's an unsolved problem, AIUI). > 2) I really dislike that "local trace generation" and "retrace server" > are discussed as though they're the only options. If nothing else, for > many non-trivial apps where abrt is potentially of the most use the core > you're uploading can easily be hundreds of megabytes; that's not really > better than downloading hundreds of megabytes. A network debuginfo > service [1] would approach this problem in a completely different way, > by letting the client download exactly as much debuginfo as it needs. Another gratuitous me too, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/RetraceServer I'm wondering why the network debuginfo service couldn't be simply wired up to Koji's rpm via readonly NFS and scrape debugingo rpms on demand. > 3) Reporting to bugzilla is a mistake. FWIW, I'll mention again my ABRT triage scripts; they help me keep sane whre dealing with incoming crash reports: http://fedorapeople.org/gitweb?p=dmalcolm/public_git/triage.git;a=tree (The heuristics there are targetting python crash reports, since that what I get) > 4) Reporting to bugzilla without being able to scrape the bz username > and password out of the firefox credential store is just cruel. Seems like this should in bugzilla. Hope this is helpful Dave -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel