Hi everyone! During Richard Hughes' "Linux and application installing" thread[1] I had argued that just showing a list of packages won't cut it for most use cases around package handling. One of those use cases is showing which packages are installed on a system. For getting an idea about a machine a list of about 1500 packages is not really helping. In a side note I came up with the following idea [2]: > Generate a packages section as found in a kickstart file and showthis as > "Installed Packages". Remove all packages required by others and reduce > packages to groups whenever possible. May be even to a group with some > packages missing. Minimizing the number of lines should get pretty good > results." This is now implemented as "show-installed" which is part of yum-utils-1.1.29-2.fc15 found in Fedora devel. It supports three different output formats: kickstart %packages, yum cli and human readable. It also supports a number of options for controlling the output and whether it should consider excludes to make use of even more groups. See "man show-installed" or "show-installed --help" for details. As the script also takes a list of package names it can be used to create a package list on/for a newer release. As it has not seen too many real world use suggestions and bug reports are welcome. While show-installed might be a useful tool I primarily see it as part of the package handing UI discussion. Tools like gpk-application or yumex could offer this as a condensed view. May be even the list of available packages could presented like this. I separated the logic from the actual formatting code so it should be easy to toy around with the Python class or to translate the pretty simple algorithm to another programming language. Feel free to ask me on #yum if you have question or need help with that. Florian [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-September/thread.html#142599 [2] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-September/143349.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel