On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 19:10, Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Once upon a time, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> said: >> I use it as a safety net for much this reason. I am not comfortable with >> 100% guaranteeing that 'helpful' services we install by default like >> Avahi are not doing things I really wouldn't want them to do when I >> connect to some open wifi network. > > So, you don't trust the services that are installed by default, but you > do trust the installed default firewall config? Why yes, yes I do. There are a lot of services that are listening to 0.0.0.0:* on my system I have no idea about but when I turn off things quit working in weird ways. I know the default firewall allows in 22 only because I said so. However the key thing is I can and do test that the firewall works. [Can I attach to cups, avahi, ntp, portmap, dhcpd (because I am running virt systems).. if I can then the firewall is broken.] I can not test what those apps do or how safe they are. -- Stephen J Smoogen. "The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance." Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle." -- Ian MacLaren -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel