I'm working on fixing a few long standing bugs in fedpkg that have to do with our branch structure (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=619979 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=622592). This has me examining our branch structure again and trying to remember why exactly I chose it (obviously I did a poor job of documenting that...). The original thought was to have top level branches that are named after distribution releases, eg "f14", "f15", "el5". Then we would force branches of those branches use a naming structure of "f14/topic". The reason was so that our tooling could look at the name of the branch and easily work back to the "f14" part. This would work even if it was "f14/user/fred/topic/mybranch" or other such craziness. When I went to test this, I realized that git won't allow you to have both "f14" and "f14/topic" as branches, because of the way the git metadata works on the filesystem. When I encountered this, I made "f14/master" become the top level branch, and then "f14/somethingelse" could coexist. Unfortunately I also wanted to keep things easy for users and tried to maintain tooling that would allow you to just say "f14". This didn't get enough real world testing and in hindsight was a bad idea. Things go wrong quickly in git if your local branch name doesn't match the remote branch name. When thinking about the above, and the two bugs I'm working on, I realized that we don't have any real strong need to be using "/" as a delineator. It makes some code easier, but makes other things more complex and difficult. So what if we changed it? What I'm thinking about now is switching from / to - as a delineator. This would improve a couple things. First, we could achieve upstream top level branch names that are short and simple: "f14", "f15", "master". We can have branches that build upon those names: "f14-rebase", "f15-cve223", "f15-user-jkeating-private". We could keep the simple fedpkg tooling that allows users to just type "f14" and the like to reference a branch, and now the local branch will match the name of the remote branch. As for the first two bugs I mentioned, it doesn't directly help them. However I would feel better about telling people that their local branches must follow a naming scheme of <release>-<something> and then we could easily guess what release the local branch is for if it isn't tracking a remote branch. However the bug about what to do if there are no remote branches is really not touched by any of this, it just got me thinking about branches :) What kind of user impact would this have? My hope is that the impact would be minimal. Git allows branch renames, and can successfully rename "f14/master" to "f14". All the history is renamed. We should be able to do this without an outage of the git server. The ACL system will need a slight tweaking, and a regeneration of the ACLs but that is fairly quick and minor to accomplish. However there will be some issues client side. We will not be able to make use of git's symbolic-ref feature of "aliasing" a branch. We cannot make "f14/master" an alias for "f14", again because of the filesystem layout issues. These issues rear their head once again when a client does a pull of an already checked out repo that had branches. Because there was already a f14/master, when the client sees a new branch just named "f14" it will fail to create it. Git has a command that will fix this "git remote prune origin". That will remove the local reference to f14/master and a subsequent pull sees the creation of the "f14" branch happen successfully. However, if a user had a local branch of f14 or f14/master they will be left with mismatched .git/config entries. In this case it's easiest to delete the local branch (git branch -d f14) and check it out again. If there are changes on the branch one can fix the config to point it to the right upstream location. Also we would need to get a new fedpkg into the hands of all the developers that handles the new branchnames. We could do a build that handles both the oldnames and the new and have it out and available for a reasonable period of time before we make the switch. So, some pain, for some pretty good gain. This time around I can setup pkgs.stg with this branch configuration and builds of fedpkg to use it for a more through testing before rolling it into production. So please, tell me what you think! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel