On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:51:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Well, what's unfortunate is that HAL got deprecated long before replacements > for all its parts were ready. KDE already waited for quite some time before > implementing the replacements for HAL and was heavily criticized for that > out of some circles. And STILL, the replacement isn't ready? It's been repeatedly pointed out that you still need HAL (or a workalike) if you want backlight control. The replacement isn't ready because the upstream kernel maintainer went AWOL for an extended period of time. > Surely copying&pasting HAL code into a helper which runs as root as gnome- > power-manager does isn't a long-term-viable solution! You're right! It's not! Which is why nobody has claimed it is. > Is there a hope that radeon and nouveau get fixed to support XRandR > backlight control by F15? (I don't give a darn about Catalyst/fglrx and > nvidia.) There is a hope, but it's going to have to happen at the server level rather than the driver level - otherwise we're going to leave behind various other drivers as well. Not all the world is nvidia, intel or radeon despite how much easier that'd make things. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel