On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 11:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Till Maas wrote: > > I did not write that testing is a waste of time. But begging to get > > updates tested is. Also it is imho for each maintainer to maintain lots > > of test machines (e.g. there are four Fedora "releases": F12, F13, F14 > > and Rawhide and two primary archs, making it 8 machines) even if they do > > not have the time to perform regular testing, but spend their FOSS time > > more on development or packaging. For dedicated testers it is different, > > e.g. if they regularly use their testing machines, it makes more sense > > to maintain them. > > Yeah, there's no way I can have more than 2 installations of Fedora running, > both on production machines, and often on the same Fedora release. I just > don't have the time to maintain test environments, I'd rather maintain > actual code and/or packages! How do you expect to be able to maintain an entire desktop environment on a distribution you don't even have installed? I have some sympathy for the 'fifty people said it works on F14, it probably works on F12 too' argument, but for a *small, leaf* package, not for an entire desktop environment! If I were a KDE user running F12 I'd feel very unsafe knowing someone was happily pushing updates of the entire environment who did not even have a running F12 machine. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel