On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 08:53:03AM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/15/2010 02:41 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >LVM's a fantasically useful tool in a wide range of cases, but I don't > >think that in the*typical* laptop/desktop install any of that > >functionality ever gets used. > > That's the essence of what's being discussed here > laptop/desktop/workstation installs default to ext4 and experienced > users/sysadmins those that generally know what lvm is with all it's > bells and whistles and want to use it will choose it during > installation. > > Those that claim that novice end users have no problem using LVM I > want them to perform just this very simple case of two person > sharing what ever data between themselves could be family photo > music video and what not. > > Partition an external connected HD that you got laying around with LVM. > > Hand that drive to the novice end user running GNU/Linux on > laptop/desktop/workstation ( if he's not you can just insert a live > cd and boot from it ) and ask him to copy a single file to that > drive no more no less. > > Take note on how many obstacle are in the users way from performing > this simple yet commonly used test case. > > Repeate process this time with ext4 only for comparison. > > After performing this simple test case and you have gathered the > necessary data revisit the topic of how easy it is for the novice > end user to use LVM and if he will ever use what ever tools we > provide him with to take advantage of all the features LVM brings > and if it makes sense to default to it. This is a silly straw-man. No one[1] formats external HDs with anything other than MS-DOS FAT. Fedora changing the default for the main hard disk will not make any difference to this case of your contrarian user giving away LVM-formatted USB drives. Rich. [1] for a sufficiently small value -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now supports 80 OCaml packages (the OPEN alternative to F#) http://cocan.org/getting_started_with_ocaml_on_red_hat_and_fedora -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
