On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 09:20:08AM +0000, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > If I wanted to step back to the pre-net era, I'd run Windows. > > I wonder if there will be someone saying (when all the apps are native > Wayland apps) "If I wanted to step back to the pre-stetic* era, I'd > run X" > > I get the impression that comparing current Fedora and Linux in > general running on varied hardware to the latest Windows and MacOS > examples reveals a lack of slickness that is easy for Linux fans to > make excuses for. I frequently see low frame rates, tearing and high > CPU usage (and put up with them). But it shows that current X based > desktops are hitting a barrier that there isn't sufficient development > effort to overcome. I have a rough idea of the hoops that software has > to jump through to provide a smooth scrolling browser window (for > example). Something that improves this can only be good for the > desktop. > > I don't think that there is a realistic threat that GUI based tools > etc will ever need tight media integration or be balkanised so that > they are not usable over the net. And I don't think it's a valid > reason to shun technologies that might bring the desktop experience up > to modern standards. Is Fedora for developers or what? We want to ditch extremely useful, ground-breaking features because of "tearing" when scrolling in a browser window? [I do *not* see any of those issues incidentally -- maybe you want to check your set-up and make sure you're not using non-free drivers] You have no evidence anyway that this tearing and high CPU load that you are seeing is caused by network transparency. It's pretty unlikely since X messages are passed from application to server using shared memory in the local case, and how exactly did you expect the app to communicate with a Wayland server except using the precise same mechanisms? There are only a limited number of ways that two processes on a Unix machine can talk to each other. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/ See what it can do: http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/recipes.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
