On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:14:08 +0200, Alexander Kurtakov wrote: >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:10:17 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: >> > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> The practical point is that F12 >> >> is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed... >> > >> > Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be >> > expected from the maintainer unless/until the version is bumped. But >> > the project can choose to indicate that by closing the bugs as >> > WONTFIX or some other way, e.g., another resolution or by customizing >> > Bugzilla to show a notice on bugs that are open against an EOL >> > version of Fedora. Personally, I dislike the use of WONTFIX because >> > philosophically I think it doesn't fit, and practically it makes >> > zapped bugs impossible to distinguish from real WONTFIX bugs in >> > searches (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528319). >> >> This is my problem with the auto closing also. Leaving a bug open >> allows a more dedicated maintainer to come along (even years later) and >> actually fix or even apply patches that are still relevant without >> wasting time with bugs that we're actually looked at and legitimately >> closed. > > Years later pretty much every bug will be irrelevant thanks to the > underlying changes that happen with every release and asking submitters > to verify that the bug is still there is the right way to go. After all > 8 out of 10 abrt submitted bugs against Eclipse stays months with > questions and needinfo flags and no response from submitters. > Note that I'm not saying these bugs shouldn't be submitted sometimes > even just because for the 2 submitters that answer questions but I > definitely don't want to waste my time closing the rest of them. > "Although we aim to fix as many bugs as possible during every release's > lifetime, sometimes those efforts are overtaken by events. " > This is the best we can do no matter what we want to do! > > P.S. Believe me having open bugs that both the packager and the > submitter care for are useless and these are the kind of bugs that get > auto closed. If one of them cares he will change the version flag. Oh > and looking at a list of hundreds bugs makes things close to impossible > to put priorities, fix and improve the situation. I understand what your saying. After some consideration, my issues are: 1. I don't respond to autobots. 2. If the maintainer doesn't care, I don't care. Thus I'm not gonna tick of some version flag or something. I think what would help moving forward, (without having to do away with the autobots, which I welcome) is what Matt said... that the autobots did not "CLOSE", but had some different status, such as: "AUTO-CLOSED". -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
