On 07:41 Thu 04 Nov , Ralf Corsepius wrote: > snip... > > As a maintainer, abrt to me primarily means "wading through wakes of > hardly readable emails", mostly to scan them for useful information. I > many cases I ended up with closing BZ, because these emails did not > contain sufficient info. > > That said, as a maintainer, abrt to me only has introduced a higher > noise/signal ratio in bugreports as before. > This is the problem we have with java-1.6.0-openjdk, except it's magnified by the fact that the user could be running *ANYTHING* on the JVM. So if some native code in a Java application crashes the JVM, we get an abrt bug report for it. The information provided is pretty much always useless for diagnosing the issue. The attached crash report is pretty incomprehensible for the JVM. Including the hs_err_<pid>.log generated by the JVM would at least be a start in making it easier to see what the failure was. But the main problem is that there is pretty much no way of reproducing most of these crashes and the user often has no clue what happened. We're getting lots of these, on a daily basis, which means that proper bug reports (i.e. ones filed by users who actually took the time to file a bug report with some useful information) are getting swamped by these abrt reports and our valuable time is being wasted. Please turn these off for this package until such a time as the default abrt report is actually useful for some form of diagnosis, which means it at least has an hs_err file and mandatory reproducer information. > Ralf > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Andrew :) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: 94EFD9D8 (http://subkeys.pgp.net) Fingerprint = F8EF F1EA 401E 2E60 15FA 7927 142C 2591 94EF D9D8 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
