On 10/13/2010 02:38 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth<mike@xxxxxxxxxx> said: >> Chris Adams wrote: >>> Maybe ethtool should be added to @Base? >> Or patch initscripts to use ethtool instead of deprecated cruft. > You cut out the part of my email where I quoted the changelog showing > that had already been done. > > The net-tools package should be included anyway (although maybe without > mii-tool), as it includes commonly used tools like ifconfig, arp, route, > hostname, netstat, etc. Even if some of those commands are obsoleted by > ip, they are pretty much required for compatiblity. net-tools also has > ether-wake for sending wake-on-LAN packets. I'm not sure. We are trying to eventually get net-tools out of the default install. Most of the scripts (initscripts/networking) has been using iproute commands now and we're trying to navigate people to switch to ip as well. All tools (don't know about ether-wake, mii-diag, plipconfig) already have it's better (net-tools uses obsoleted kernel interface) successor. ifconfig -> ip addr, ip link, ip -s link route -> ip route netstat -> ss, ip route, ip -s link, ip maddr hostname -> has been separate package since F13 mii-tool -> ethtool arp -> ip neigh ipmaddr -> ip maddr iptunnel -> ip tunnel nameif -> udev e.g. Debian si going to leave it and is migrating towards iproute. see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00780.html hostname package is now pulled in with net-tools but it should probably be in @Base. Can I (maintainer of hostname) add it to comps or do I need to ping somebody else ? -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel