On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > 1) When you added this to F14/F15/EL6, you added a typo; this > broke the F-14 branched compose and the EPEL updates push. > *Please* verify your changes before pushing. Sorry I missed it > 2) Aside from that... how does this merit a separate group? > > - We already have the electronic lab group > - If we add a group each for developing for any embedded/custom > board, we're going to run into group explosion really quickly Well it does merit a separate group and we differ in terms of goals. Fedora/Free Electronic Lab focuses primarily on ASIC design. We were pretty bad in terms of knowhow in the embedded environment, until Shakthi joined us. Hence our solutions for embedded tool are improving. But our FEL goal is not only provide to but also to foster a community around it. Milkymist community builds and enhance their own toolchain (currently not fully supported by Fedora). They have contributors who contribute for tools such as gcc, qemu, other libraries (too software for FEL goals). They have many patches that need to push to upstream. Milkymist founder and I believe that we can collaborate as the milkmist community is situated between FEL and Fedora, in terms of tools and upstream patch-push. It is a win-win situation for everyone. Having a separate group will prevent flooding ASIC engineers (existing FEL users) with non-useful tools. Having a separate group will strengthen RedHat/Fedora focus on patch submission for important tools such as gcc, qemu,..... In short, that was it. It's sad though you can differ FEL goals from the rest. Chitlesh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel