On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:58 AM, mike cloaked <mike.cloaked@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Huh? ÂSure they are. > > Some people use nightlies for example - > Here there are no 64 bit versions that I am aware of? > > I do this when the stock version is somewhat behind even the stable > release from mozilla. Âeg in f12 the current thunderbird is 3.1.4 but > the current f12 version is 3.0.7, and similar for firefox. Yet this is > still a supported release - yes f13 is up to current stable releases > from mozilla for both of these. However in the mozilla filestore for > latest stable for thunderbird at: Mozilla only builds x86_64 for trunk builds: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/nightly/latest-comm-central/ http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ If you're not interested in the bleeding edge, why not run what Fedora provides? ...and if more people were using x86_64 Linux then perhaps Mozilla would bother building the other branches for it. [snip] > However in the future, say when f15 is still supported but f16 is > current, it may well be that it is more work to run applications such > as this that are more up to date than the Fedora packages either by > messing with multilib library install or building the application for > 64 bit from source. The traditional way to get future packages is to pull them back from later Fedora versionsâ though this doesn't always work, nor does taking packages from a third party. > There must be quite a few other examples where people will want to run > specific codes that are not built for 64 bit? Â To take the hassle out > of dealing with issues like this I install 32 bit and life is a bit > easier! Not fedora packages, however. Third party, especially binary only things... Sure. But the way to move forward there is to get x86_64 the defaultâ the technical issues are solved, only market share will convince the stragglers. And besides, "Fedora is a center for innovation in free and open source software" and 1/3rd of Fedora users are already on it. Nothing is bug freeâ but Fedora's 64 bit support is about as close as anything available to me, and has been for some time. Advising caution 'until the bugs were worked out' might have been reasonable long ago, but not anymore. As far as I can tell the only big reason to lead with i686 is simply because if x86_64 is promoted some people will download the wrong version for their hardware and have trouble installing. It's a real concern, but I think that Fedora's commitment to innovation should take priority, as it has taken priority over small usability issues every time Fedora has updated some major piece of infrastructure to a new version. > However no doubt the best decision will emerge from the discussion? No doubt. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
